Re: MD Pirsig, the MoQ, and SOM

From: poteejc@okstate.edu
Date: Tue Oct 15 2002 - 17:33:40 BST


>
>I guess we're all "infected" with SOM since we use SOM language to
>communicate with one another. Our language is riddled with SOM since
>it's fundamental premise is "I" and "You" (self-other). To accuse Pirsig
>of being caught up in SOM is to accuse him of using the English
>language. For Pirsig, SOM and its handmaiden science are high-quality
>intellectual patterns. So I think you concern that Pirsig is "under an
>SOM spell" is a strawman.

This brings me to something that I have a vested interest in. Martin Buber was a philosopher of the existnetial bent. For him, the primary source of reality was to be found with the contexts of our relationships. He posited the I-Thou relationship as one of (for lack of time to furhter develop, but I can in other posts and other lists) authenticity and mutualness. One where there is no distinct "I" nor no distinct "You". So, given these unclear definitions, it is possible to relate and be with others without the SoM distinction. Which is likely why I dig Buber, since Pirsig was the first philosopher I read.

Well, that was my tangetn for the day.
james

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