From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Oct 15 2002 - 20:22:03 BST
Hi James:
> This brings me to something that I have a vested interest in. Martin Buber
> was a philosopher of the existnetial bent. For him, the primary source of
> reality was to be found with the contexts of our relationships. He posited
> the I-Thou relationship as one of (for lack of time to furhter develop, but
> I can in other posts and other lists) authenticity and mutualness. One
> where there is no distinct "I" nor no distinct "You". So, given these
> unclear definitions, it is possible to relate and be with others without
> the SoM distinction. Which is likely why I dig Buber, since Pirsig was the
> first philosopher I read.
Precisely. There is no "I-You" distinction until we create the distinction
in order to be able to talk about it. Pure, direct experience is pre-
distinction, pre-division, pre-language, pre-intellectual, pre-conceptual,
pre-rational, pre-criteria, pre-standards, pre-metaphysics, pre-narratives,
pre-vocabularies. But, it is NOT pre-values because it is pure value, i.e.,
Quality. Isn't that Buber's point?
Platt
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