From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Tue Oct 15 2002 - 22:26:41 BST
Davor and all:
[David Buchanan] Pluralistic and multi-cultural nations can hardly
function without intellectual guidence. Your questions and comments point to
this. If the rural people in Dutch society had their way, the Islamic
immigrants would likely be sent home. This is just a matter of one set of
social patterns in conflict with a different set of social level patterns.
This is the stuff that colonialism, war and genocide are made of.
Intellectual values, on the other hand, can ensure that several different
set of social and cultural values can all co-exist through the existence of
rights and other prohibitions against prejudice, bigotry and supremacy.
(This is yet another clue as to the nature of reactionary and conservative
ideologies, which tend to mistrust and even despise ideals like pluralism
and multi-culturalism.) The only "correction" I'd suggests is that
biological value patterns don't enter into this issue.
Thanks,
DMB
>
Davor wrote:
> I was wondering (as ever) about the social level, i have been thinking
> about
> the integration of minorities in dutch society and came to the following i
>
> am curious whether you think it makes some sense, I also have an very long
>
> extended version but these are the main points:
>
> Two battles going on:
>
> * The battle between intellect and society
>
> The individualised dutch society(in the greater cities) is a block for the
>
> integration of foreigners, most foreigners have an islamic background
> which
> focuses on society rather then on individuals. This creates a schism
> between
> the two groups, there is no common ground.
>
> * The battle between biology and society
>
> The rural areas in Holland are the areas where the resistance against
> foreigners is the greatest
>
> People are scared for what is strange, the rural areas are more socially
> based, with strong social control and to a lesser extent control by
> religion. The rural people are fighting for preservation of identity and
> culture and are frightened foreigners will bring chaos and disrupt their o
>
> so precious culure. They see foreigners as barbarians trying to undermine
> societal structure.
>
> I have never thought about it like this, it seems that the social level is
>
> attacked from up and from down,
>
>
>
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