hello everyone
Diana writes:
Currently the two schools of thought on the subject are
split along precisely these lines. You have the people who like to
elaborate on the aesthetic side, who see Dynamic Quality as intuition,
beauty, etc and you have those who only want to say it is something to
do with quantum phenomena. The subject-object metaphysics is perfectly
aware of these concepts but it says that aesthetics are subjective and
matter is objective. As long as you focus on one side at the exclusion
of the other you're still perpetuating the myth.
Diana, complementarity, which Bohr developed for use in quantum mechanics,
may also be extended into everyday reality and one of the things it would
seem to predict will happen is exactly what you are saying. oddly,
complementarity does away with subject/objectivism by focusing on only a
whole system which must be closed in order for the law of conservation to
apply. i say 'oddly' because if not understood properly, complementarity can
lead to other conclusions as well which may be just as correct.
both aesthetic beauty and quantum theory are two separate complete systems
if we look at them in complementarity. IF the metaphysics of Quality draws
these two separate phenomena together, then it would seem to have value.
what this might mean in ordinary everyday reality is that each Quality Event
is a complete event that we enclose in our minds before moving on to the
next Quality Event. this sequence is part of our perception and we do not
notice it at all...our experiences seem to flow in a continuous stream, but
it is possible that our awareness is actually composed of discrete QEs, each
one a complete whole.
at the quantum level, as we are no longer able to perceive what is happening
and blend it into a continuous stream, complementarity says that each
observation IS a complete whole abstraction of a Quality Event, and no QE
can occur twice...in other words, if we measure the force/momentum of a
particle with one QE, we will not be able to determine its position other
than saying it is somewhere in the universe. and if we determine the
particles position with a second QE, we will not be able to determine its
momentum other than saying the particle is at such and such a point at such
and such a time because we can no longer say they are both abstractions of
the same Quality Event!
two simultaneous measurements of the same object can occur to determine both
position and momentum, and an unambiguous communication set up to
communicate both its position and momentum between observers, but the
problem arises in the term 'unambiguous communication' and just how such a
thing is accomplished. Bohr believed that unambiguity could be acheived
because what is being measured is not reality itself, but an abstraction of
a real, independent underlying reality.
complementarity seems to deal with how we perceive our reality not only at a
quantum level but at all levels of our experiences. it is therefore possible
that we are incapable of combining both aesthetic beauty and what is known
as quantum phenomena simply because we have no way of conceptualizing what
occurs at the quantum level the way we do at our everyday level of reality.
in fact, what occurs at the quantum level could almost be equated with
Dynamic Quality in that 'it' is ever shifting and fluxuating and as soon as
we name what 'it' is that is happening, we no longer know what is happening
now, but only what has just happened. once a Quality Event has occurred, we
can no longer say what is happening other than the result of that QE.
best wishes to all,
glove
"It is too clear and so it is hard to see.
A dunce once searched for fire with a lighted lantern.
Had he known what fire was,
He could have cooked his rice much sooner." (Mumon)
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