Diana-
It was strange to get this comment from you. For Pirsig to say that these
levels are natural and out there would be nothing short of hypocrasy. Like
the "Newton and Gravity" example from ZMM... if these levels are really
"out there" then where were they before Robert Pirsig discovered them?
Show them to me. Can you point to them anymore than you can point to the
law of gravity?
Pirsig's levels are not inherent in nature anymore than the law of gravity.
They are discriptions of nature, much like the aforementioned law. And I
lthink the quote I included is pretty supportive of this.
Rick
At 09:29 PM 11/4/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Jonathan, Richard,
>
>Richard Budd wrote:
>>
>> Jonathan wrote "...This is not to say that Pirsig's 4
>> >levels are not real. The 7 colours of the rainbow we identify are
>> >perectly real, though we could equally well make an alternative division
>> >of the spectrum into 5 or 8 colours."
>>
>> I think Pirsig would agree with this and I refer you to ZMM Chapter 14---
>> "Molecules are molecules. They don't have any ethical codes to follow
>> except those that people give them."
>> >
>
>
>Does somebody want to suggest what these alternative divisions might be?
>
>And, given that the bulk of chp 12 onwards, the SODV paper and Anthony's
>diagram (which P has confirmed) all describe only four moral levels
>(plus DQ), why would you think that Pirsig would agree with you?
>
>Diana
>
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