SOME COMMENTS FROM ANOTHER FEMALE ON THE SQUAD:
> Diversity of Opinion
>
> * Why are so few women in the squad?
>
> >Diana: As for lack of women round here, it's a pity but it's the same on
> other mailing lists and on usenet, I believe it's because of wider social
> issues that have nothing to do with Lila. There is a social moral pattern
> that discourages women from being independent and intellectual...
>
> I don't know what it's like to be a woman outside the United States. In
> this country, women engaged in this type of debate as recently
> as 15 or 20 years ago would have been considered "weird".
I'm a woman in Norway, a country I think is known for equal opportunities
for men and women.
FINTAN; although I don't participate in the debate, I haven't left the
Squad. But my job takes me from 58 degrees North to 78 degrees North, from
7 degrees East to 31 degrees East. That means a lot of travelling, and
makes me lag behind. Tonight I've been catching up, and please
JONATAHN, spare us comments like .."asshole statements" as of your post of
Nov.15th. That is not showing us respect, as you claim you do in the end of
your post.
> >Jonathan: I'm afraid that none of the excuses I've read so far really
hold
> water. Let's face it, the Lila Squad is male dominated.
Yes, maybe you men need to "show off" how clever you are, more than we
women have to.
> >Diana: Lila Blewitt was written the way she was to bring out the
conflicts
> in Phaedrus biological and intellectual patterns. If she had been smart
then
> these conflicts would never have arisen and there would be no way to
> illustrate the various moral patterns that are the subject of the book.
>
> Yes, but I can visualize a lot of other ways one could illustrate moral
> patterns and I'm disappointed that he chose this one.
Why take it so personally MARY? I do agree with Diana here.
(sorry, deleted too much here)
> >Fintan: This is revolting. I feel ill just reading it.
>
> Yes.
WHY?
> * Is the male/female dichotomy biological?
>
> >Bodvar: I consider everything about the book to be in the service of
> demonstrating the MOQ so the description of Lila Blewitt may be shallow
but
> there is no feminine or masculine component to the MOQ. The sexual
> attraction/discrimination is a Biological value of enormous age and
> importance as is hunger and craving for food.
>
> >Horse: try and keep a quality perspective and not a female/male/biology
> perspective
>
> I need to think about this some more. I owe you a post.
>
Do that, Mary, I agree with Bodvar and Horse.
> >Diana: (don't be too clever or you'll never find a husband).
> This is it in a nutshell.
Yes, Diana, right you are. Even norwegian (and swedish) men are discouraged
by strong, self-supporting, intelligent, craving women.
Tonight I followed the MoQ meltdown thread, I'm sorry I didn't come to your
rescue BODVAR. But HORSE did, and he did it very well, much better than I
could have.
It is not only lack of time that stops me from posting, most of the time my
thoughts are much better expressed by someone else. I'm "just" an engineer
that loves reading, and has found a good view of life thorugh Pirsigs (and
others) books.
Looking forward to the future with good discussions on the LS.
Gunn
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