I think the model for MoQ meditation was discussed earlier. It was about
mediatating "back" though the levels. You meditate to leave behind your
intellectual awareness, your sociological identity... etc. Whoever made
the posts stated rightly that its very difficult just to get to leave
behind the intellectual, and any further than sociological (ie centering in
only on your biological processes, or your molecular state) is damn near
inconceivable. I took a class in meditation once. Didn't do much for me.
All good,
Rick
At 08:17 AM 2/5/99 -0600, you wrote:
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fintan Dunne <findunne@iol.ie>
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 5:59 AM
>Subject: MD The MU state
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>>>lithien
>>>i think people are posted out! LOL
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>>Hi Squad,
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>>All posted out.......eh?
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>>Ah......the MU.........
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>>The MU state....at last......at last.
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>>Now comes the time to listen.
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>>love
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>>Fintan Dunne
>>findunne@iol.ie
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>I believe some people are getting posted out because the subject matter is
distorting the metaphysics of quality. I have had a couple of people write
to me complaining that what basically is a simple and pure idea is being
turned into new age mumbo jumbo. Anyway I thought I would be the scapegoat
and speak for some others.
>
>Now back to the point, I want to talk about some ideas. First, I was
wondering what different people thought of meditation to reach a state of
dynamic quality. It seems to me that in Zen the buddhist are trying to
reach a state of no-mind. I believe this is very similar to dynamic
quality, but wanted to get some other opinons.
>
>Second, I think that instead of all the intellectualizing about dynamic
quality, DQ should be experienced. Mediatation is obviously one way to do
this. Also remember that DQ is not found in an intellectual category, but
rather is an event that happens intuitively. I don't know if Pirsig wants
us to experience this state frequently or if he is just drawing a theory up
to explain reality. But all of the fancy talk about DQ always falls short
of the mark.
>
>Anyway I wanted to make a couple of minor points.
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>Thanks,
>
>Jason Nelson
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>yellowck@nemr.net
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