MD Re:Zen and DQ

From: Yellow Creek's Mail (yellowck@nemr.net)
Date: Fri Feb 05 1999 - 14:17:02 GMT


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From: Fintan Dunne <findunne@iol.ie>
To: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 5:59 AM
Subject: MD The MU state

>>lithien
>>i think people are posted out! LOL
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>Hi Squad,
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>All posted out.......eh?
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>Ah......the MU.........
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>The MU state....at last......at last.
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>Now comes the time to listen.
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>love
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>Fintan Dunne
>findunne@iol.ie
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I believe some people are getting posted out because the subject matter is distorting the metaphysics of quality. I have had a couple of people write to me complaining that what basically is a simple and pure idea is being turned into new age mumbo jumbo. Anyway I thought I would be the scapegoat and speak for some others.

Now back to the point, I want to talk about some ideas. First, I was wondering what different people thought of meditation to reach a state of dynamic quality. It seems to me that in Zen the buddhist are trying to reach a state of no-mind. I believe this is very similar to dynamic quality, but wanted to get some other opinons.

Second, I think that instead of all the intellectualizing about dynamic quality, DQ should be experienced. Mediatation is obviously one way to do this. Also remember that DQ is not found in an intellectual category, but rather is an event that happens intuitively. I don't know if Pirsig wants us to experience this state frequently or if he is just drawing a theory up to explain reality. But all of the fancy talk about DQ always falls short of the mark.

Anyway I wanted to make a couple of minor points.

Thanks,

Jason Nelson

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