MD re:Glove's inquiry

From: elg14 (elg14@earthlink.net)
Date: Tue Apr 13 1999 - 05:47:42 BST


Hi,
Thanks for the reply Glove. You write:

"Hello Bill ... nice to meet you. I think you bring up a very important
point. Your he'd point in your matrix to be exact. I noticed you spent much
time explaining the layers of your totem, or matrix, and the intricacies
contained in them, but you just sort of casually mention that you labeled
the outside as Quality."

I probably didn't explain too much. The totem I used was imported
from India. The 7 chakras are thought of as key centers of experience
within human beings. They don't represent objects as much as they
represent processing agents or key centers of processing. The four
categories of value mentioned by the MOQ go in a different direction.
They are ways of grouping the more objectified elementals inside and outside
of human beings; more the product of the analogical knife rending
things in a practical way.

"Also interesting is how you never stopped to wonder whether the totem
was going to be of use while you were constructing it,
only afterwards did you begin to question the value. What does it mean?"

As the totem was imported, it didn't require much construction. I
sorta understood the values it represented and wondered if they were
mirrored on some horizontal plane. I could understand "the fire in the
belly" contained within traditional reports of this third chakra.
Were such things as courage, the stomich, and "gut feeling" related?
There was some meaning for me in this matrix. I was excited by the
prospect of interelating things, or, of being able to project and name
positions by triangulating vertical and horizontal points of meaning.
I'm not quite as excited about it as I used to be for some reason I
can't quite put my finger on.

"First though, tell me more about the outside of the totem. What is the point
of interaction between the totem as itself and whatever is not the totem?
Why is Quality outside? And how does "it" affect the totem?"

Well, DQ isn't really outside of the matrix--I put it at the outer
edge instinctively maybe because I was thinking about electrical
components or about the alpha and omega or something. I don't
remember just what I was thinking.

I can't really imagine anything truly "outside" of everything the
matrix--as a concept--seeks to contain. That doesn't mean there isn't
anything...just that I can't picture what it could be. How does DQ affect
the totem of the 7 chakras? Perhaps as the intent to reach a pristine heaven
affected the builders of the Tower of Babal. Hard to say for sure about these things!

Once again Glove, I appreciate your interest and thanks for the
welcome.

Bill

The value that an object contains is not so high as the value that it does
not contain. Perhaps it wasn't until your totem became an object that you
realized that?

Best wishes

glove

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