Re: MD Spooky Lila Squad Spillover

From: rich pretti (richpretti@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 04 1999 - 21:55:36 BST


Rog & all other Ne'er-Do-Wells:

The aforementioned entity wrote:

>>>All four levels of static quality are encapsulated in the intellect. The
>>>entire world of divided self and universe is an intellectual construct.

>>>This, of course, does not mean that all is contained in mind. The
>>>intellect is not the same as mind, and the mind is half the duality
>>>itself, not the vessel that holds it.

---What, then is mind? I think here of the zen Mind, or Experience, which is
Dynamic, which is Quality itself - undefinable, beyond distinctions... is
this what you have "in mind"?

>>>But we still have the question of the intellect and how it is connected
>>>to DQ, or pure experience. The only reasonable answer is to follow
>>>William James' lead that THINKING is a form of pure experience.
---Yes!

>>>Thinking can be experienced and is in the now, while thoughts are always
>>>static and in the past.

---Could each "thing" then be seen as a Dynamic verb (thinking), which is
experience, and a static noun (thought), which is experiencED?

>>>Another critique of this idea may be that this means everything is just a
>>>thought. This is half true in that EVERY THING is indeed an intellectual
>>>construct, it sure as Hell doesn't mean that ALL is an intellectual
>>>construct. Because thoughts are derived from DQ and DQ is all.

---Yes, thoughts are derived from DQ, but what about the concept of thoughts
ONLY being possible through the framework of cultural language, and a brain
and nervous system, and a physical planet on which to think? One can use the
analogy of "jumping energy levels" at each Quality event. That is,
every"thing", every Event must occur, and be experienced, in the following
order; let's use the Experience of the Act of reading Lila, and take two
chronological perspectives: that of Cosmological Evolution, and that of
Immediate Experience.

1) Cosmological Evolution.

The book, like everything, by definition is a creation of Dynamic Quality.
However, that creation follows an order.

The existence of that book on your desk does NOT follow this order of
creation: a-DQ, b-intellectual patterns of value(interpretation) b1-Roger,
b2-book

It follows this order: a-DQ, b-inorganic pov's (physical universe),
c-biological pov's (life on earth, homo sapiens), c-social pov's (life on
earth, culture), d-intellectual pov's (printing press, metaphysics), e-Roger
enters room with book on desk, f-Roger sees book, g-Roger reads English
wording, h-Roger's intellect comprehends subtle philosophical0 in's out's
beside's after's and's but's and I's.
i-Roger thinks of pre-intellectual experience being described and by so
thinking carries himself further away from that pre-intellectual experience,
which has been there, and is there, all the time - so really he didn't
mmisss anything..

This then leads to a universe composed entirely of Quality, or DQ, where a
>particular Quality event (referenced as thinking) creates the subjects and
>objects that are then mistaken for the real world. The static patterns of
>the world we know and categorize are just dim ghosts of the true undivided
>and dynamic Quality.
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>Let me know your thoughts.
>
>Roger
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