Mary and squad,
Mary says:
Your definition of Quality as the driving force for Good in the Universe
sounds somewhat like Socrates' (?)Ultimate Good. An objective Good which
stands outside the Universe as an absolute. Pirsig disagrees with this as
we know. He absolutely objects to absolutes. In the MOQ there are none,
there is only DQ, SQ, and the Moral Codes interacting between the SQ
levels.
Why is this a problem? Why does the Universe require The Good? Isn't it
good enough knowing, as Pirsig tells us, that Value is the only thing that
exists?
Ken says:
An unfortunate choice of wording. What I was trying to say was that
Quality is the driving force for the possibilities that existed in the new
universe and that because that Quality was responsible for producing all
else, including us, then its productions became what we consider to be Good
today. It is good because it produced the living universe and us. We fit
the system therefore we are embedded in good. I agree with you that there
is no objective moral good, only process. If we separate Quality and Value
then I also agree with you that Value, etc. is the only thing that exists
but I hold that Value results from Quality. The universe does not require
Good, only possibility which, of course, results in Good from our point of
view. Smart Alec.
As for the rest of your post I will have to read it more closely but it
looks reasonable at a glance. In any case, thinking back over the posts for
the last week or so it looks like we may be closing in on what Pirsig was
trying to make clear. Lets quit nitpicking and try to figure out what
Pirsig was actually trying to say. Ken
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