RE: MD Reality & Observation

From: Walter Balestra (Balestra@ibmail.nl)
Date: Sun Aug 22 1999 - 02:26:13 BST


Rog,

Two questions for you.

1) You write:
"DQ is everyday Direct Experience"
 and
"Reality is Direct Experience"

Can this be, seeing that Quality = Reality = divided in DQ and SQ.
I guessed you meant that Reality is Direct Experience but also the
conceptualisation of this Direct Experience. But then you write:

" SQ is subjectified and objectified patterns. These are conceptual
 models that are our best representations of pre-conceptual experience. These
 are often CONFUSED WITH REALITY because ... "they have become such a common apparatus
 for describing, understanding and analysing that reality." "

Do you regard the conceptualisation of Direct Experience not as part of Reality?
Please explain?

2) DQ is Direct Experience, but it is also the Conceptually Unknown.

As Pirsig writes in his SODV-paper:
"I think that science generally agrees that there is something
that has to enter into experiments other than the measuring
instruments, and I think science would agree that "Conceptually
Unknown" is an acceptable name for it. "

How can you reconsile DQ as "the Conceptually Unknown" with
DQ as "Direct Experience". These seem to be two different concepts?

Dtchgrtngs
Walter



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