> Just a few words in response to jc's comments on words and images....
>
> jc WROTE
> My thinking has been radically moved by a French Theologian and critic
> of
> Technology who explained the conflict in terms of the Image vs. the
> Word.
> These terms mean more than the mere surface meaning suggests and
> indicate
> the conflict of static systems of social control (images) over
> fundamental
> intellect (words).
>
> DMB says...
> Wow. Fascinating. I thought of movies, which Pirsig said are at the
> social level. The theologians idea seems to help explain why, because
> they're so visual. It also explains why "My Dinner With Andre" might
> be considered intellectual even though it is NOT a documentary. Its a
> philosophical conversation on film. Hardly pretty to look at. .... I
> also thought of the Asian languages. Instead of a phonetic alphabet,
> they have a system of images. Its a kind of picture language. Made me
> wonder how that would effect their intellect.
>
>
> jc WROTE
> It was an interesting thesis he presented. There are two ways a human
> can
> recieve information into his brain - his eyes or his ears. Eyes
> correspond
> to images and reality and the ear relates to words and Truth. Truth
> and
> Reality are in conflict in the same way that society and intellect
> are.
> It's been fascinating seeing the insight the MoQ brings to his
> analysis and
> vice versa.
>
> DMB says...
> Yea, I like the MOQ parallel. But I'm thinking that the theologian is
> being "deep" rather that epistemological. I mean, I would take that
> "eyes" and ears" stuff too literally. I'm just guessing. ... It seems
> words can enter either way, through the sound of a voice or through
> written words. Images can even enter the ear, sort of.
>
> jc WROTE
> But the overwhelming conclusion is that we are approaching a crisis -
> the
> total triumph of social means of control - the emergence of the beast
> that
> archtypically haunts our nightmares. Perhaps this beast has been
> percieved
> ever since the dawn of western civilization. It's very interesting to
> intellectualize... but sort of scarey to behold.
>
> DMB says....
> Yea, the beast. Now there's an image. The book of revelations is
> nothing but imagery, and its about the final battle with "the Beast".
> The anarchists and EarthFirst!ers were out in the streets of Seattle
> actually engaged in a battle with the Beast. (Not that the WTO is
> Satan, but you get the picture.)
>
[David Buchanan]
PS jc, I wouldn't mind some info on your theologian.
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