Re: MD Looking out for one another

From: Gina Raihani (cocoon60@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Dec 26 1999 - 08:55:01 GMT


Hi everyone
Just a short message from the U.K about certain points that have been raised
over the last few days.If everyone had a real understanding for the intimate
role we play in the development of life itself , then maybe we would no
longer treat our world as a mere provider, which is available for
exploitation. The reason why trees,humans, animals etc. exist in the first
place,is because they have quality,
otherwise their existence would be meaningless.So the message I want to pass
on to everyone, is that we are all connected by this dynamic quality and by
looking out for one another in a holistic sense , I am sure would solve many
of our temporary moral dilemmas.

>From: "Jonathan B. Marder" <marder@agri.huji.ac.il>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Subject: MD Looking out for one another
>Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:14:51 +0200
>
>Hi Walter, Horse, Platt, David B., (Diana, if you read this) and all,
>
>Seasons greetings everyone.
>
>This is basically a continuation of the "Bottom up Morality" thread, but
>I've changed the subject line because I believe that many things are
>starting now to come together (for me, at least).
>
>Many months ago, Diana commented on a communism vs. capitalism
>discussion by saying that for either system to work it must be applied
>with CARING. I've carried that comment with me since.
>
>In recent posts, several of us have made the point that "moral"
>decisions require us to take account of as much of the sceneraio as
>possible basically to open our eyes and LOOK OUT. Looking out is, of
>course, synonymous with caring. You care for someone by looking out for
>them. Pirsig as the narrator of ZAMM provided us several examples of
>people applying their craft carefully, with full attention. He also gave
>us a counterexample of recklessness. A few years ago, I read
>psychiatrist Scott Peck's "The Road Less Travelled By" in which he makes
>the point that the opposite of love isn't hate, but lack of caring.
>
>David B.'s Xmas message of LOVE makes perfect sense. The morality of
>Pirsig's quality lies in the equation linking value/caring/love. People
>who love/value/care about each other also look out for one another.
>
>Does Lila have quality? Does Lila have love? Does anyone care for her,
>does she care for anyone?
>Rigel answered the question by his own actions. He was looking out for
>her all along!
>
>But how can each individual maintain a constant lookout in every sphere
>of life? Moral codes, laws and recipes are there to help. Their aim is
>allow us to live moral lives by "autopilot". This has put western man to
>sleep - he can follow rules, but mistakes this for morality. We have
>stopped caring and stopped looking out. No wonder we've had such
>terrible moral crashes this century.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>
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