sorry I forgot to introdce myself .I am Gina and go to university in the
U.k,
>From: "Gina Raihani" <cocoon60@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: Re: MD Looking out for one another
>Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 00:55:01 PST
>
>Hi everyone
>Just a short message from the U.K about certain points that have been
>raised
>over the last few days.If everyone had a real understanding for the
>intimate
>role we play in the development of life itself , then maybe we would no
>longer treat our world as a mere provider, which is available for
>exploitation. The reason why trees,humans, animals etc. exist in the first
>place,is because they have quality,
>otherwise their existence would be meaningless.So the message I want to
>pass
>on to everyone, is that we are all connected by this dynamic quality and by
>looking out for one another in a holistic sense , I am sure would solve
>many
>of our temporary moral dilemmas.
>
>
>>From: "Jonathan B. Marder" <marder@agri.huji.ac.il>
>>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>>Subject: MD Looking out for one another
>>Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:14:51 +0200
>>
>>Hi Walter, Horse, Platt, David B., (Diana, if you read this) and all,
>>
>>Seasons greetings everyone.
>>
>>This is basically a continuation of the "Bottom up Morality" thread, but
>>I've changed the subject line because I believe that many things are
>>starting now to come together (for me, at least).
>>
>>Many months ago, Diana commented on a communism vs. capitalism
>>discussion by saying that for either system to work it must be applied
>>with CARING. I've carried that comment with me since.
>>
>>In recent posts, several of us have made the point that "moral"
>>decisions require us to take account of as much of the sceneraio as
>>possible basically to open our eyes and LOOK OUT. Looking out is, of
>>course, synonymous with caring. You care for someone by looking out for
>>them. Pirsig as the narrator of ZAMM provided us several examples of
>>people applying their craft carefully, with full attention. He also gave
>>us a counterexample of recklessness. A few years ago, I read
>>psychiatrist Scott Peck's "The Road Less Travelled By" in which he makes
>>the point that the opposite of love isn't hate, but lack of caring.
>>
>>David B.'s Xmas message of LOVE makes perfect sense. The morality of
>>Pirsig's quality lies in the equation linking value/caring/love. People
>>who love/value/care about each other also look out for one another.
>>
>>Does Lila have quality? Does Lila have love? Does anyone care for her,
>>does she care for anyone?
>>Rigel answered the question by his own actions. He was looking out for
>>her all along!
>>
>>But how can each individual maintain a constant lookout in every sphere
>>of life? Moral codes, laws and recipes are there to help. Their aim is
>>allow us to live moral lives by "autopilot". This has put western man to
>>sleep - he can follow rules, but mistakes this for morality. We have
>>stopped caring and stopped looking out. No wonder we've had such
>>terrible moral crashes this century.
>>
>>Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
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