Re: MD Pantheism and MOQ (also MD Jesus?)

From: Elizaphanian (Elizaphanian@members.v21.co.uk)
Date: Tue Nov 05 2002 - 21:26:44 GMT

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    Hi Steve,

    >
    > What I meant was that I think Panentheism (not necessarily the moq) is a
    > concept of God that is consistent with Christianity. Do you disagree?
    And
    > also that Quality is a concept of God that is consistent with a
    > panentheistic conception but not a pantheistic conception.

    Oops, my bad. I guess what was bubbling in my mind just had to come out
    somehow, and I misunderstood your point. Panentheism is certainly compatible
    with Christianity - at least, I know lots of highly educated Christians that
    hold it; I used to, now I'm not so sure (developing mistrust of all
    metaphysical descriptions of God, not a specific rejection of panentheism).
    I liked what you said in your last post on this though.

    > You must have been reading my mind because I am also interested in
    > reconciling the moq and Christianity though I am not ready to argue that
    it
    > is possible. I hope you take it on in your next campaign.
    >
    > I guess I'd rather not comment further unless you are ready to take it on,
    > and I think it's probably best for you to first conclude this campaign so
    we
    > know what it is we are comparing.
    >
    > I'll read and think about your post (lots of good stuff!) and if you don't
    > bring it up again, I will.

    I think it's about time I shut up for a while, and let my torrent of words
    subside. Hopefully if I let things settle I'll have some more feedback. I've
    started to gather some things together from my posts, in order to write up a
    coherent essay (about reconceiving the fourth level) to be posted on the
    website, and without even trying I've got up to 7,000 words!!!! Besides
    that, I want to get back to concentrating my main intellectual energies on
    the mysticism stuff, which I've been promising to John B for many moons.
    Probably after Christmas I'll put something together about mysticism, the
    MoQ, Christianity and spiritual growth. Of course I'll comment on anything
    that you or anyone else wants to put out in the meantime, if I've got
    something constructive to say.

    Cheers!

    Sam
    www.elizaphanian.v-2-1.net/home.html

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