From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sat Nov 09 2002 - 23:52:50 GMT
Steve said:
To disagree with the first point (I.), I think one would have to answer my
taxonomy questions: What type of pattern is a person? What type of pattern
is a tree? What type of pattern is Shakespeare's Hamlet? What type of
pattern is the earth? What type of pattern is the universe? And the answer
must be either inorganic, biological, social, or intellectual. But only one
of them for each.
dmb says:
But only one of them for each? Maybe this is where you went wrong. People
and things are made up of various mixures of the levels. An intellectual
person, for example, can only be so if she first has inorganic, organic and
social level patterns all in place already. Intellectual values include all
the previous levels even as it is something entirely different, something
more than the sum. Objects can be seen this way too. The art example works
well here. Its certainly made of some kind of material; synthetic man-made
stuff, natural fibers, steel, whatever. Let's say its built of both
inorganic and organic level patterns. There is a social dimension, the
controversies, the shocked blue noses, the funding disputes. Perhaps it has
intellectual value and was in fact designed to instigate a public discussion
of sexuality and art. Hopefully, it has aesthetic value and/or is an honest
rendering of the artist's experiences. So even an object, hypothetical as it
is, can be composed of patterns of value from all four levels. This
classification system works equally well in describing levels of
consciousness as it does the "stuff" of the world because they are not two
different things.
Thanks.
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