From: Jonathan B. Marder (jonathan.marder@newmail.net)
Date: Sun Nov 17 2002 - 07:02:06 GMT
Hi Rick, Horse, Platt, Sam, Wim, Marco and all,
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HORSE
And a conclusion is another name for a judgement!
RICK
Sure. But under Jon's theory, "observation" is also a synonym for
"judgment" (since "judgment" = "conclusion" and "conclusion" =
"everything").
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JONATHAN
I like it! I think by using the word "judgement", Horse was alluding to
(evaluation of) quality (right Horse?).
If that is so, Rick boils it down to Quality = Everything. How very
Pirsigian!!!
PLATT (to Jonathan)
By definition and common understanding, an instrument is a mechanical
device. Only a biologist (and a liberal politician) would associate a
human
being with something mechanical. :-) I think your view is quite a
stretch
of the meaning of "instrument."
It is a deliberate stretch, because the devices used as detection aids
are all red herrings in the context of the discussion. What one sees
with the naked eye is intrinsically just as valid as what one sees
through a telescope or through a computer visualization. One can be
misled into false conclusions in all three cases.
I repeat what I said before, scientific objectivity is really just
reproducibility. If enough people agree with the conclusion, it is
considered "objective fact" (like the "fact" that the earth orbits the
sun). Until it is accepted, it is considered conjecture (subjective), or
even worse, heresy.
Jonathan
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