From: Monkeys' tail or (elkeaapheefteen@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 20 2002 - 09:59:13 GMT
This is the quote (slightly longer) from an English copy of 'Lila':
>
>'Karma is the pain, the suffering that results from clinging to the static
>patterns of the world. The only exit from the suffering is to detach
>yourself from these static patterns, that is, to kill them.
>A common way taken to kill them is suicide, but suicide only kills
>biological patterns. That's like destroying a computer because you can't
>stand the program it's running. The social and intellectual patterns that
>caused the suicide have to be carried on by others. From an evolutionary
>point of view it's really a backward and therefore immoral step. Another
>immoral way of killing the static patterns is to pass the patterns to
>someone else, in what Phaedrus called a "karma dump." You invent a devil
>group, Jews or blacks or whites or capitalists or communists-it doesn't
>matter -then say that group is responsible for all your suffering, and then
>hate it and try to destroy it. On a daily personal level everyone has
>things
>or people they hate and blame for their suffering and this hatred and blame
>brings a kind of relief.'
>
>I think you shouldn't forget to add the solution Pirsig offers:
>'If you take all this karmic garbage and make yourself feel better by
>passing it on to others that's normal. That's the way the world works. But
>if you manage to absorb it and not pass it on, that's the highest moral
>conduct of all. That really advances everything, not just you. The whole
>world. If you look at the lives of some of the great moral figures of
>history-Christ, Lincoln, Gandhi, and others- you'll see that that's what
>they were really involved in, the cleansing of the world through the
>absorption of karmic garbage. They didn't pass it on. Their followers
>sometimes did, but they didn't.
>On the other hand, Phaedrus supposed, when you're on the receiving end of
>some karma dump like that it sets you free.'
Davor:
What else is hate then hate for oneself, the terrorists of 911 do not hate
democracy or freedom they hate the democracy and freedom in themselves. They
hate the biological aspects of <the free world>, they hate the biology in
themselves, that is why they are in their societies so repressive against
it.
Why do some people hate foreigners, because they hate the foreigner in
themselves, the stranger that we do not wish to know. The people with the
most hatred in them are often a collection of the ultimate static patterns
you can imagine. They cannot imagine something good besides themselves,
because the actually find themselves not worthy.
Pirsig is spot on the absorption of karmic garbage, it takes a strong man to
internalise all hatred but if you look at the writings of many great
philosophers, mystics, poets and prophets as Khalil Gibran you will see the
same thing, the internalisation of all emotions, even stronger the
internalisation of the world, that is cosmic awareness, that is
enlightenment.
Sure it feels good to dump your karma, like going to the toilet after having
extra spicy chili concarne, but that is not really a solution rather a
projection of some fear.
This view is actually a great anlytical tool in psychology, think of the
things you hate and you will see that it are the things you hate of
yourself. Why do we love Pirsig, we love him for the things we love
ourselves. It is not a coincedence, remember the little psychology test from
a while ago?
davor
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