Re: MD Contradiction? "Mystical Experience"

From: Mari (mld2001@adelphia.net)
Date: Fri Nov 29 2002 - 18:29:36 GMT

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    Hi Platt and all,

            Thanks for responding.

    i will admit that i have/had some pre-conceived ideas about the elements,
    conditions, and circumstances necessary for "ME" to happen. It occurred to
    me that if there ever was a group that these conditions might be met by the
    MoQ group would be high on the list, no pun intended.

    In my life i have experienced a number of extraordinary "happenings" that
    fall outside what i in the moment thought to be "normal" everyday fare
    including extreme pain and pleasure; physically, mentally and emotionally.
    All of these "EOE's" had in common this sense that the experience was an "
    almost religious " thing by nature consisting of a time, space <distance>
    warp and an "afterglow". ( similar in many ways to love and/or orgasm )

    When i think of them side by side i have a tendency to rate them by
    importance but in another light they appear to be all part of a cosmic
    continuity, an abstract stream of consciousness, if that's not redundant,
    that bleeds off into smaller tributaries which feed my minds eye and then
    works its way out and into my art.

    My art is not "realism". It does not beg to be defined. i am happy with the
    term: "abstract" if i must be categorized:

    Considered apart from concrete existence: an abstract concept.
    Not applied or practical; theoretical. See Synonyms at theoretical.
    Difficult to understand; abstruse: abstract philosophical problems.
    Thought of or stated without reference to a specific instance: abstract
    words like truth and justice.
    Impersonal, as in attitude or views.
    Having an intellectual and affective artistic content that depends solely on
    intrinsic form rather than on narrative content or pictorial representation:
    abstract painting and sculpture.
    To take away; remove.
    To remove without permission; filch.
    To consider (a quality, for example) without reference to a particular
    example or object.
    (bstrkt) To summarize; epitomize.
    To create artistic abstractions of (something else, such as a concrete
    object or another style):

    Platt wrote:
    > The best description of the mystic experience I've read was written by
    > Arthur Koestler in the death cell of a Spanish prison while he was
    > occupying his mind with the intellectual elegance of Euclid's proof that
    > the number of primes is infinite:
    >
    > "It swept over me like a wave. The wave had originated in an articulate,
    > verbal insight; but this evaporated at once, leaving in its wake only a
    > wordless essence, a fragrance of eternity, a quiver of the arrow in the
    > blue.

    Mari says:

            "The Wave" part most definetly resonates with my experience. During
    those times that i consider to be "ME" the sense of being lifted up as if on
    a wave is one of the re-occuring "feelings" Also floating and turning ever
    so slightly as if suspended like a fetus in the embryonic fluid...reminds me
    of 2001 a Space Odyssey in more ways than one.

    Mari

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