RE: MD Can Only Humans Respond to DQ?

From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Sat Nov 30 2002 - 20:45:42 GMT

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    >===== Original Message From moq_discuss@moq.org =====
    >ERIN:
    >> I don't agree a machine can detect the President.
    >> It can detect a fingerprint. You would have to
    >> tell the machine what fingerprint is the President.
    >> So yes this 'human element' is what I thought was
    >> Pirsig's point so whats the prob?
    >
    >What 'human element' would this be? Doesn't a person have to
    >tell you who the President is, if you don't know? Is this more
    >impressive than having to tell the machine which fingerprint is
    >the President's?

    You don't need a society to have a fingerprint but you
    do need one for a President.

    >GLENN:
    >>But let's see what we can deduce from Pirsig's statements:
    >>1) biological patterns are objects outside our minds
    >>2) the devil is a biological pattern
    >>Conclusion: the devil is running around the earth, incarnate.
    >>It's no wonder MOQ non-believers think the MOQ is spooky. It is.
    >>
    >ERIN:
    >I find your reasoning spooky. This makes no sense to me.
    >
    >Have you heard of GIGO? It stands for Garbage In, Garbage Out.
    >The premises are Pirsig's and the conclusion follows from them
    >logically. Which part of *my* reasoning makes no sense?
    >Glenn
    >

    see Rick's response....and then try reasoning with a
    'human element'.

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