From: john williams (ducati900@bigpond.com)
Date: Thu Jan 02 2003 - 21:21:27 GMT
Hey Mari
Mari says: In Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein There are
> several levels to his "church" It was necessary and worked. In Brave New
> World there were levels and they worked ( there is always a fly in the
> ointment so to speak but i don't want to focus now on what doesn't work
but
> would rather talk about the part that does work ) i'm not sure about MoQdg
> having just 2 levels of conversation but i do agree that more than one
> "level" would probably lend itself to a greater degree of participation,
> communication, understanding, transcendence, and transformation.
> i've received several emails from individuals who admit to lurking. i
> wouldn't 'out them' but want to encourage them to come forth and
> participate. At the same time i don't want this to be a hijacking of the
> MoQdg. i've noticed that many of the contributors who were participating
> daily have been absent for some time....what's that all about?
>
Agreed. Multi level discussion, that would be good and I think we're getting
it at the moment.
My daily working life is one in which I regularly come up against situations
where an alteration to the work pattern or equipment is required, Whenever
the Trained engineer gets involved it's always this might happen or this
could happen so we shouldn't do it.I always say "is there risk of injury or
major damage? No- well lets just give it a go and see what happens".
Being aware of the pitfalls of a new system is important but it shouldn't
stop you from moving forward, and if you haven't actually implemented a new
idea how do you know it's benefits won't far outway drawbacks?
As for the absent posters I'd hope their away for holidays.
Mari says: If real value exists with-in, about, and around The Metaphysics
> of Quality and it become a part of you then it will shine through, be
there
> for the taking so to speak when you teach. It shines through in much if
not
> all that i do even during my douth and pain......i hear myself saying at
> times: "my god my god why hast thou forsaken me" so inspite of MoQ and
that
> which i call my "mystical experiences", i am still here on an earthly
plane
> connected to the collective consciousness of man being human, doubting,
> forgetting, being lazy, experiencing the dual nature of god/man crying out
> to myself, to the ego, to the "I" realizing i'm at least for the moment
not
> one with the ONE. That said i realize that paradox is also part of the
> mystery so even when i'm not there i'm still there. Does that make sense
to
> anyone beside me?
>
>
I don't know if I understand your predicament Mari but I know what your
getting at, Oh for the contentment of a Krishnamurti, I guess it would be
nice but i don't know that my soul is old enough for that yet. My god did
forsake me, but being a good postmodernist I just started looking for
another one.
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From: "Mari" <mld2001@adelphia.net>
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Subject: Re: MD re: quality decisions
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