Re: MD DQ & emergence

From: ml (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Wed Aug 04 2004 - 05:21:39 BST

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    Hi Mark, and all,

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 5:49 PM
    Subject: Re: MD DQ & emergence

    msh:
    > >
    > Thanks for the links re Emergence, and your other ideas, which will
    > take a little time to ponder.

    mel:
    Hope it helps, I look forward to your insights.

    msh:
    > 2) ON CHOMSKY
    > I believe I've read most of what he's written, and heard or read most
    > of his interviews and debates. We're talking about THOUSANDS of
    > hours of material. I've never seen him respond to an argument with
    > ad hominem attack. NEVER. Once in a great while subtle digs and
    > insults have been traded off-point, often humorously, but never
    > instigated by him, and never in place of answering an argument.
    >
    > Therefore it seems incredible that your one exposure to his thinking
    > would show him dodging an argument with ad hominem attacks. Do you
    > remember where and when you heard or read this?

    mel:
    It was part of a video regarding Chimp sign language...

    msh:
    > Anyway, even if such an exchange exists (I highly doubt it), this
    > hardly seems reason enough to dismiss his quite remarkable
    > contributions to linguistics, cognitive science, and political
    > philosophy.

    mel:
    I should probably look into his work, I know NOTHING of it.
    My avoidance of him is entirely my problem...
    A disability I've long had, and am now trying to get past, has
    been when a figure, set up as an 'authority,' behaves in a way
    that is disrespectful to others, I just turn my back on them and
    their work. I seemed to equate the quality of the man and the
    quality of all his works
    (Yes, it is a logical fallacy, the part to the whole.)

    msh:
    My experience has been that people avoid what they
    > perceive as dissenting opinion for reasons of their
    > own ideology, now using the word in your sense.

    mel:
    Hmmm. I know some literalist fundamentalists who
    make the Taliban look liberal...maybe we should invite
    them to participate in some anti-theism discussion.
    THAT should be productive ;-)

    You and Platt Holden outta get together and go bowling. ;-)
    >
    mel:
    Hmmm an MoQ bowling league, now you are giving me
    brain damage, but if the beer is free...

    Hey Platt! You up for it?

    thanks--mel

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