From: Ilya Korobkov (korobkov_ilya@mail.ru)
Date: Thu Aug 05 2004 - 13:52:32 BST
Hi Mark,
Vac> 1. Can we say that person A is more Dynamic then person B?
Vac> Mark 4-8-04: This can be qualified because a 'person' is given quite a
Vac> detailed description in the MOQ: A person is dominated by a combination of four
Vac> levels of evolutionary related static patterns, Inorganic, Organic, Social and
Vac> Intellectual, and these levels are responding to DQ at the same time.
Vac> So, A may be more Dynamic than B depending on the relationships of these
Vac> patterns - and this comparison is ethical.
We can imagine a person A, whose biological level only (or soial level
only) responds to DQ, can't we? And we can imagine a person B, whose
intelectual level only responds to DQ, right? Now, let's put aside ethical
side of the difference between person A and person B. Can we compare
DYNAMICNESS ITSELF of these two people?
Do you see what I'm driving at? May we or may we not bring into use
the term "dynamicness", that would mean the ability of a person to
respond to DQ? - Suppose we can. Does dynamicness of one level of static patterns
necessitate dynamicness of other levels of static patterns? Is there
such a thing as GENERAL DYNAMICNESS, or we can talk only about
dynamicness of a sertain level of static patterns?
Vac> 4. By what signs can we tell more Dynamic person from less Dynamic
Vac> person?
Vac> Mark 4-8-04: Values. If a person is dominated by biological patterns of
Vac> values then sex and food/drugs may be a factor in their lives. A person dominated
Vac> by social patterns of value may have celebrity status as an issue in their
Vac> lives?
Don't you make a distinction between moral (ethical) side of the
difference between these two persons (which patterns dominate which)
and the difference of DYNAMICNESS ITSELF in them? It seems strange.
Remember Lila, who was "intellectually nowhere" but VERY Dynamic at
the same time? Maybe I just didn' understand you Mark?
Vac> These patterns can fall into chaos and negative quality, which is not to be
Vac> confused with DQ.
What is ontological status of chaos? How can we tell negative quality
from DQ? What is the difference?
Vac> In my own search for some answers to these questions i
Vac> worked on an essay called, 'The edge of chaos' which is available on the MOQ.org
Vac> essay page. Perhaps you wish to take a look at it Ilya?
I have read it. It is really valuable text. I'm gonna reread it and
then maybe ask you some more questions.
Vac> Each evolutionary related stage of static quality is in conflict with others
Vac> for domination. This may a root source of many neurotic states psychologists
Vac> wish to understand?
Yes, I think you are quite right.
Vac> Dynamic mystical experience is something to be thought about very carefully i
Vac> feel Iiya. This level of experience is above even the intellectual level, and
Vac> must have been dealt with by many psychologists over the years who cannot
Vac> have answers to their patient's questions. That may be about to change with the
Vac> use of an MOQ perspective?
Yes, I hope so.
Thank you for your help, Mark! I really appreciate it.
Best regards,
Ilya
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