RE: MD MOQ psycology (?)

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Mon Aug 09 2004 - 00:06:04 BST

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    DM, Ian and all:

    David Buchanan asked:
    How do you figure the word "scientific" has anything to do with being
    politically correct?
     
    David M answered:
    Ever read Marcuse's One Dimensional Man? -
    good discussion in it on the political conformity
    of science. Quality has more to offer
    then instrumentalism.

    dmb replies:
    No. Never read Marcuse. Nor do I have any interest in instrumentalism. But I
    wanted to point out that we're here to discuss the MOQ and in the MOQ
    science and intellect in general is supposed to be independent of political
    control, which is considered immoral. And even without any fancy
    metaphysics, political conformity makes for very bad science. This is not to
    say that science is bad in these cases, but rather that this kind of
    corruption is bad for science. This is why I am baffled at Ian's suggestion
    that science and political correctitude are connected.

    Also, I would beg you to offer explanations and ideas rather than just
    dropping names and such. I mean, if you think the ideas are worthy and
    interesting why not tell me about it rather than just hint at it?

    Further, Marcuse is a Marxist social critic and not a philosopher of science
    and his book was published about twenty years before the phrase "politically
    correct" became currency. I mean, Marcuse's discussions of political
    conformity are not a discussion of "political correctness" per se, but
    pertains to a much broader problem with industrial and technological
    culture. PC refers to a particular set of beliefs and attitudes held by
    left-leaning, post-modern grad students beginning in the mid-eighties. In
    other words, I don't see how your response has anything to do with my
    question. I asked about the connection between PC and science and you've
    offered a discussion of power relations with the industrial West.

    See?

    Thanks anyway,
    dmb

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