From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Wed Aug 11 2004 - 05:06:44 BST
Received from Dan Glover on Monday, August 09, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: MD Proposal to discuss a Metaphysics of Value
> Dear HP
>
> I'm very disappointed in your essay. I revel in new Pirsig-related
writings
> so I was looking forward to an intellectual treat. Instead I find a
mishmash
> of platitudes I've been reading my whole life. As far as I can see your
> essay doesn't contain a single original idea. In addition, there is only
one
> reference to Robert Pirsig, the outtake from his SODV paper, and your
> comments on that make it appear as if you've read neither of his books. In
> fact, after reading your essay it appears you don't even know how many
> "cult" books RMP wrote. Do you? Have you in fact read both ZMM and LILA?
If
> so, why haven't you revised your essay to reflect that? If not, what are
you
> doing here?
I'm disappointed in you, Dan; and I wouldn't have replied to such a hostile
reception
except for my curiosity as to what might have provoked it. Perhaps I'm
wrong, but I
thought the purpose of a forum was to provide an open discussion of ideas
related to
the subject at hand -- in this case, a philosophy focusing on Quality.
Inasmuch as my
thesis has a similar thrust, although developed from a metaphysical rather
than a
sociological perspective, it seemed a perfectly appropriate topic for
discussion.
That is "what I'm doing here"!
I'm sorry there were not enough Pirsig quotes in my thesis to whet your
intellectual
appetite, but, as someone interested in philosophy, I should think you would
want to
explore other concepts of esthetic reality, which is what MOQ really is. Or
are you so
bound to a single author that you reject anything that's not constructed on
his statements?
That is a strange attitude, indeed, for a subsciber to a group whose common
quest is for
philosophical truth.
Yes, Dan, I have read "Lila" and most of "ZMM" -- not to qualify for this
list, but rather
to see how philosophers have dealt with Quality and Value, both of which are
of concern
to me. (As you've observed, I found the author's paper on "Subjects,
Objects, Data and
Values" metaphysically more relevant, as well as strong support for my
thesis.)
Fortunately, several of the participants in this discussion have found some
intruiguing ideas
in my thesis that animosity has apparently prevented your discovering. I
sincerely hope
that your opinion of me as an "intruder on sacred soil" will change over
time.
Essentially yours,
Ham
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