Re: MD DQ & emergence & consciouness

From: Dan Glover (daneglover@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Aug 12 2004 - 20:53:59 BST

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    Hello everyone

    >From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
    >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >Subject: Re: MD DQ & emergence & consciouness
    >Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:55:04 EDT
    >
    >Hi Dan,
    >
    >Dan:
    >I agree experience can be a tough word to define. What if we say
    >experience/Dynamic Quality like the Tao is amoral. That's how we get Mark
    >Maxwell's Tao bombers and reports of Japanese prisoners of war sitting in
    >zazen while awaiting war crime tribunals.
    >
    >Mark: Please allow me to make a few points here:
    >
    >1. Toa bombers are not, 'Maxwell's'. I found references to these and wished
    >to understand what was meant. I applied the MOQ:

    Hi Mark

    For the sake of brevity I wrote "Mark Maxwell's bombers" but I should have
    written the Tao bombers that Mark Maxwell brought up in another post. Sorry.

    >2. The Tao conception of nature is not evolutionary.
    >3. The MOQ's conception of nature is evolutionary.
    >We now have a tentative answer to speculation regarding Tao dive bombers:
    >4. The MOQ provides a moral framework for understanding excellence in
    >action
    >(Tao dive bombers) within an evolutionary process (Value evolution).
    >
    >Dan:
    >There's no need for a mysterious "dark side" of the Tao. It is our own
    >intellectualization that labels our experience good and evil.
    >
    >All the best,
    >Mark
    >
    >P.S. I wonder if you may be thinking about answering the last post i sent
    >you? It would be nice to hear what you think.

    Thank you for thinking of me.

    Dan

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