From: nargess sabeti (arzikass@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Jan 12 2003 - 20:40:27 GMT
The work of MOQ group is discussion and as you mentioned ,Zen is sth revealing in silence.
So how d'you want zen be discussed? somebody said that as a kidding,but I'm not kidding at all.
I really cannot believe in that sb who laikes to discuss ,argue and answer every discussion be a Zenist.
Sb in this case pointed to postmodernism.Furthur,I cannot believe in that Zen can be related
to postmodernism.Why do we want to consider everything under the shade of these "isms"?
It is not important for me whether or not Pirsig is a zen person because he is a postmodernist
or he is a postmodernist because he is a zen person.it is a definition only.To be or not to be a postmodernist.
Zen is sth completely isolated.
we are not zenists;because we all want to talk more and more.We cannot imagine Truth without
discussing, talking and communications.We analyze every Pirsig's word.We discussed a common idea hours,days and even months.
So how can we be the followers of Zen?
Zen is discovery of Truth in silence,subjective vacuum, nothing.This is not similar to
our behavior,any way.
I'm sorry for my rough english,it's not my language.
Nargess.
Steve Peterson <speterson@fast.net> wrote:
All,
Some have recently expressed their unmet expectations about moq.org, so I
wanted to add my unmet expectations to the stew for some added variety.
Mari's and Rudy's and other's got me thinking about what I had expected. I
thought it would be more about Zen. Silly me.
I'm not complaining about the discussions. I have enjoyed reading and
participating a little. I had even forgotten until yesterday that it is not
what I had expected. What ever led me think it would be about Zen in the
first place?
I remembered that Pirsig says somewhere that he thinks of himself as a "Zen
person" and I finally dug up the quote.
On page 445 of the 2000 edition of ZAMM an e-mail interview is printed
(along with some letters, an intro to the reader's guide, etc.)
Pirsig answers the question, "Are you currently working on any literary
projects?" with:
"No. Enough is enough. I think it's bad to write when don't really have a
compelling need to say something. Of course, for most writers the
compelling reason is money, but my two books have taken care of that.
Anyway, I think of myself as more of a Zen person than a writer and one of
the most admirable aspects of Zen is that it encourages silence."
Is anyone else surprised or interested in that Pirsig thinks of himself as a
Zen person rather than as a philosopher? Should this discussion group
reflect that fact or does it already? Is it indeed a fact or am I taking
his statement out of a broader context?
Steve
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