From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
Date: Thu Aug 19 2004 - 12:57:37 BST
Hi Mark,
I wrote in last letter:
> I would put things the other way now. Instead of placing a person
> somewhere on the STATICNESS-DYNAMICNESS scale, I would rather
> characterize him now as being more or less OPEN TO DYNAMIC QUALITY.
> (It is a way of description Wim Nusselder had suggested.)
Mark answered:
Vac> Hi Ilya, I feel Wim has confused you.
I don't see why do you think so, Mark. In fact, I rejected Wim's
way of description at first. It just did't make any more sense than my,
it seemed to me. But some time since I came to conceptualizing
psychological reality in this same terms. Try to see why I value it.
Mark 18-8-04: Hi Ilya, I wish to understand what contributes to openness to
DQ. Is being open to DQ healthy? Is it dangerous? When is it more healthy and
when is it more dangerous?
Mark:
Vac> You see, if one accepts
Vac> what coherence is trying to say, that coherence is, 'freedom from static
Vac> patterns, within static patterns' then a coherent person IS more open to
DQ in a
Vac> healthy sense. An Incoherent person is open to DQ but the result is
chaotic and
Vac> pathological. Does this make any sense?
I'm not sure if I understand you rightly. Let me put down what I may see
in this passage of yours and you will correct me where I am wrong, Ok?
1) Coherence is freedom from static patterns within static patterns.
- I think this is certainly true. But I wouldn't use this metaphorical
description as the definition of coherence. It may be very confusing.
Mark 18-8-04: With regard to psychological health or danger from openness to
DQ, coherence characterises healthy states, and healthy states which are open
to DQ.
Wim's suggestion that we consider being more or less open to DQ doesn't say
very much it seems to me; he is stating an MOQ truism.
The phrase, 'freedom from static patterns within static patterns' aims to
convey the optimum balance between stasis and Dynamic growth.
2) Coherent person is more healthy (in any sense) than incoherent.
- Definitely true.
Did i miss something, Mark?
Mark 18-8-04: No.
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