From: Scott Roberts (jse885@earthlink.net)
Date: Sat Aug 21 2004 - 22:51:51 BST
David M,
> But I also agree with Scott that there is something idea-intellect
> like about all the activity/creativity that occurs in the cosmos prior
> to 4th level intellect in Pirsig's terms. So Pirsig fails to nail
> this aspect of intelligence in all of cosmic creativity, i.e. pre-human
> intellect even. I in fact think this helps my case for feeling that the
> realm of DQ possibilities -sort of dreams and ideas- is prior to
> SQ actuality. What we mean by SQ Being is the very thingness-repetition
> that gives it duration-being-pattern-sameness. I cannot imagine SQ before
> DQ, but I can imagine a dream-time of pure DQ without SQ, where there is
> pure flux, no repetition, where all bursts of activity is new and
therefore
> pure flux.
I can't imagine it, since there can be no activity without something (SQ)
to act against, to provide a background. Flux can't happen without
something to change. You can't notice that you are not stepping into the
same river without something repeating. Hence I see the requirement of the
logic of polarity.
> Only the cessation of DQ, the plunge into repetition can bring about
reality
> as we know it. And this plunge is the first differentiation. DQ plunges
into
> repetition, SQ gains some kind of autonomy and separation from DQ,
> it is free to repeat, free of change and creativity, DQ forsakes power
> over the realm of SQ, only in this self-alienation of Quality into SQ/DQ
> is it possible to open the space where there can be awareness and a
content
> of that awareness, an Other, with its own duration-being, as if DQ drew
> an image of its self in the sand and called it a reflection, prior to the
SQ
> line drawing there was no Other to experience, separation is the mother of
> experience. SQ is the self-expression of DQ to itself!
Rather, I see DQ/SQ polarity as the self-expression of Quality to itself.
- Scott
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