Re: MD MOQ, Art & Creativity

From: Charles Roghair (ctr@pacificpartssales.com)
Date: Thu Aug 26 2004 - 06:50:06 BST

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    On Aug 25, 2004, at 2:31 PM, MarshaV wrote:

    > There are, though, those moments when I can't seem to get out of my
    > own way. It is then when I must put the brush down. It's hard to
    > know when enough is enough.
    >
    > If everyone made art, I think this would be a happier world.
    >
    > We can praise this experience forever, but I think we all must admit
    > there are moments when we go from peaks to valley. What's the hard
    > part? Platt gets disappointed when his paintings don't match his
    > expectation. I suppose I can get down when I think 'Why bother? Who
    > differece? Who cares?'. That's a different kind of disappointment.

    Marsha:

    Right on.

    Some of my scariest valleys are run-on sentences (some of my valleys,
    they are numerous), which is probably obvious, but especially grating
    during the editing process. I'm re-reading ZMM currently and writing
    daily which is normal, but I recently picked through some undergrad
    notes from a fondly remembered course in which the instructor advised
    the class that if we were to take anything, let it be the following:

    When you're ready to edit any piece of writing, select your favorite
    sentence, chunk of dialogue, clever turn-of-a-phrase, etc. and omit it
    from the piece. Difficult to do, but a valuable lesson learned.

    I realize now that instead of spending days trying to make something
    work that is beyond my ability, I need to just let it go. Sometimes I
    still thrash around with words and grammar for ridiculous amounts of
    time before I realize it and then I feel silly actually and then I'm
    happy because I know I'll let it go and then feel lighter. As will the
    prose.

    A day or two after rediscovering my old notes, I read a section of ZMM
    in which Phaedrus gives his students virtually the same advice.
    Advice, I think now, that is about not forcing square pegs into round
    holes as well as the virtue of non-attachment.

    I've never painted. Is there any 'editing'? Once the paint's on the
    canvas, there's no subtraction, only addition, right? But there are
    unfinished novels? If you're not feeling in touch with a piece, is
    there any filing it away for weeks, months or years later when you may
    be in a better place to finish, with a wider perspective perhaps? Or
    is it one-at-a-time? Are painters nagged by partially unpainted
    canvas? Is it possible to leave a piece unfinished indefinitely; to
    relegate half-baked ideas to the never-baked pile of your own free
    will?

    Marsha: "Why bother?"

    Chuck: "Why not?"

    Best regards,

    Chuck

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