Re: MD Provocative statements

From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Sat Aug 28 2004 - 10:39:10 BST

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    More commonly - it is better to travel than to arrive - pure DQ.

    I say - many a true word spoke in .... jest / irony / metaphor / aphorism
    ... take yor pick.
    (Many more than spoken in cold logic / science if you get my earlier drift.)

    Ian
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    From: "Chuck Roghair" <ctr@pacificpartssales.com>
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    Subject: RE: MD Provocative statements

    > > Anyone disagree with any of the above?
    > [How about another: Is meaning real?]
    >
    > Define real.
    >
    >
    > A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent upon arriving. A good
    > artist lets his intuition lead him wherever it wants.
    > -Lao Zi
    >
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    > From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]
    > On Behalf Of ml
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:49 AM
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    >
    > Platt / All...
    >
    > Platt said:
    > > In looking back over previous posts I noticed a number of provocative
    > > statements that may lead to further interesting discussion. Such as:
    > >
    > mel:
    > The skein of your attention is impressive in the catch it was able
    > to filter from the verbal-storm of the mog.org. My reactions[...]
    >
    >
    >
    > > -- Responses to Dynamic Quality are genetic
    > [...sounds like an adaptive principal, a reformulation
    > of a notion of evolution.]
    >
    > > -- Sometimes the bad can be good.
    > [...the deep complexity of our interconnected universe
    > means we cannot precisely comprehend effect.]
    >
    >
    > > -- Political correctness is a blight on intellect.
    > [...PC is a blight on anything.]
    >
    > > -- Science isn't the last word on anything.
    > [...Science is a methodology to help guide us on
    > a certain type of journey, its fruits are ephemeral.]
    >
    > > -- Beauty is closely related to Dynamic Quality.
    > [...or at least our perception of it.]
    >
    > > -- To put philosophy in the service of any social organization is
    immoral.
    > [ Problematic Statement as it sits.
    > If one attempts to improve a social organization to maximise DQ,
    > then the philosophy becomes a social philosophy which is moral
    > over what preceded. However, if the philosophy seeks to maximise
    > SQ or promote social devouring of intellect, then the social
    > philosophy
    > is immoral and the act of so placing the philosophy is as well.]
    >
    > > -- Helping others can cause misery.
    > [...the deep complexity of our interconnected social network
    > means we cannot precisely comprehend effect.]
    >
    > > -- Money is a measure of social values.
    > [...'A' measure, sometimes...]
    >
    > > -- There is experience without subjects or objects.
    > [...experience is, subject and object are merely organizational
    > tools for abstracting experience and meaning.]
    >
    > > -- I think, therefore I pattern.
    > [...awareness is markedly experienced here, now, of thinking.]
    >
    > > -- The body dies; the body's beauty lives.
    > [...the fruits of effect are independent of origins, after the fact.
    > Mona Lisa endures beyond DaVinci. true. The memory of the
    > dance endure beyond the curtain's fall. true. However, in an
    > ultimately reflexive way, biologically, for me, the hard muscled
    > young stud with the cheekbones didn't even survive into
    > middle age, unless the mirror lies about the bald old fat guy
    > who seems to have replaced his reflection ;-) ]
    >
    > > Anyone disagree with any of the above?
    > [How about another: Is meaning real?]
    >
    >
    > thanks--mel
    >
    >
    >
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