From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Aug 28 2004 - 13:01:22 BST
Ian:
Ian wrote:
> Human Scale Issues ? How about the ones debated interminably on here.
> War & Peace, Good and Evil, Values, responsibilities at Abu Graib, you get
> the idea.
>
> Anyone using an argument like,
> Saddam did this, and so-and-so is true, therefore the right answer is XXX -
> is a numbskull, as we discover over and over again. Or more precisely is a
> political animal hiding from blame behind the rhetoric of "logic".
>
> Alternatives ? How about MoQ ?
Ian previously:
> > > (2) I very carefully did not "abandon logic".
> > > It has its place. What I said was
> > > "stop applying only simple, (classical, scientific) logic
> > > to complex, multi-level, human-scale issues"
> > >
> > > Consistency and agreement with experience ?
> > > OK, but I'd use better tests than simple logic (in such cases).
Platt previously:
> > What "better tests" would you suggest in dealing with "complex, multi-
> > level, human-scale issues?"
You suggest using the MOQ as tests. OK. But please enlighten me as to what
those tests might be. How would they be different than Pirsig's tests of
truth -- "logical consistency, agreement with experience, and economy of
explanation."
Thanks.
Platt
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