Re: MD The individual in the MOQ

From: ml (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Wed Sep 01 2004 - 05:24:44 BST

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    Hello Arlo...

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Arlo J. Bensinger" <ajb102@psu.edu>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:11 AM
    Subject: Re: MD The individual in the MOQ

    <snip>

    Simply, as Wittgenstein proposed, man cannot think outside his language,
    because
    he thinks *through* his language. Any internal system (memory, cognition,
    ego,
    whatever you want to call it) is a symbolic representation of reality, as
    filtered through one's semiotic systems (language).

    <snip>

    mel:
    For general intellectual purposes W is largely right, but anyone
    who dances, paints, seriously plays sports, or does martial arts
    has probably experienced alternative processing of information.

    While symbolic mapping of data-as-information is freighted with
    huge relational attributes and associations, and thus rich in content,
    attribution of meaning can be done in ways that are not symbolic
    on the level of semiotics. Meaning is still mapped as understanding
    onto data and into structures, but not via symbols.

    Sometimes the dancer needs to dance the meaning,
    the absence of blue in the shadow is seen,
    the lifting swing of the bat must be felt,
    a strong attack may require entrance.

    Meditation is to sit in the font of DQ, before
    cognition, before symbology is possible.

    thanks--mel

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