From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu Sep 02 2004 - 19:15:00 BST
If you have read my complete thesis without finding anything new or
worthwhile in it, then what can I tell you, except that I'm disappointed?
DM: I refer to your posts, not read the whole theses yet.
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From: <hampday@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: RE; MD the individual in the MOQ
>
> Ham Priday to David Morey
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004, 4:10 AM
> Subject: Re: RE; MD the individual in the MOQ
>
>
> You said:
> > we are certainly not very interested in how
> > big you ego is, I am embarrassed for you,
> > in my opinion from your posts you have
> > yet to grasp the MOQ only then could
> > we examine if you have found any contradictions
> > or improvements.
>
> I'm not aware that I've flaunted my ego at anyone in this forum, hence
there
> is no need to be "embarrassed" for me.
> Also, I feel I've now learned enough about the MOQ to grasp its major
> contradictions with Essentialism.
>
> > haven't seen any yet though. Maybe you are
> > not expresing yourself very well. Pirsig
> > explains MOQ in relation to his SOM analysis
> > of the entire history of western philosophy.
> > We all know where MOQ diverges from SOM,
> > explain yourself in relation to the tradition &
> > let us work out how it differs to the MOQ, we
> > have no shortage of analytical skiils here
>
> Dave, despite my inflated ego, I don't presume the right to impose my
entire
> thesis on another philosopher's web site. Anyone wishing to read it can
do
> so simply by going to www.essentialism.net. The fact that you and your
> colleagues have the analytical skills to compare my philosophy with MOQ
and
> other perspectives is precisely the reason I'm here. I would hope that
the
> questions and exchanges in these postings would be sufficient to discern
the
> central ideas of Essentialism and make whatever comparisons are useful.
>
> The Philosophy of Essence was not developed to "fit" a specific
philosophic
> category, and I don't see the need for "classifying" it. Quite frankly, I
> don't know exactly what dialectical school best characterizes my theories.
> Essentialism has an eclectic foundation that borrows from the idealism of
> the Greeks, the metaphysical insights of Plotinus and Eckhart, and the
> cosmological concepts of contemporary physicists. Since Essentialism
posits
> reality from the perspective of the individual, I haven't attempted to
> present it in a socio-cultural context, as Pirsig has done via his novels.
> It may be a shortcoming on my part, but I'd prefer that the reader make
this
> connection for himself (This decision is consistent with my belief in
Free
> Will.)
>
> In reply to Mark's question as to what I thought was "unique" about my
> philosophy, I said:
> > I think the immanency concept is unique in that it makes Essence
> > accessible to man (as Value). The notion of a (totally) subjective
> > essence probably originated with Plotinus, but Aristotle and his
followers
> > had posited "essence" as specific "entity types" in an objective
reality,
> > which is where the positivists still search for it today.
>
> In additon, the (negational) Creation hypothesis and the principle of
> Individual Freedom (with its relation to Value) are original conceptions
> which may be viewed as adding to its uniqueness. (I find it interesting
that
> no one in this group has yet challenged these concepts.)
>
> If you have read my complete thesis without finding anything new or
> worthwhile in it, then what can I tell you, except that I'm disappointed?
>
> Essentially yours,
> Ham
>
>
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