Re: MD MOQ and The Ideal Society.

From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Mon Sep 06 2004 - 07:16:30 BST

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    Dear David M.,

    You wrote 28 Aug 2004 13:51:10 +0100:
    'At this moment I think that what is at issue are our values, and whether we
    can start to address values that embrace the best potential we can aim for
    on this planet, to see that we can aim higher than we do currently, and that
    the sq that resists us can melt away and this can be achieved by just
    walking away from this damaging SQ. We need to help DQ in creating new and
    better possibilities. We need to change
    our values, thinking, & life choices. It is not easy.'

    I replied 3 Sep 2004 06:32:16 +0200:
    'What is this "we" (and what you call "I") that is resisted by sq and that
    can/should help DQ?? Sq and DQ make up everything according to the MoQ.
    Where is this "we"/"I"' to be found?'

    You replied 4 Sep 2004 10:51:10 +0100:
    'Easy-"we & I" are the individual & common/collective human & cultural
    subsets of all SQ/DQ'

    So a whole resists a subset and a subset needs to help a whole??
    To me "sq resisting us" and "us helping DQ" suggested that "sq", "us"and
    "DQ" are each subsets of a bigger whole ("Quality") that don't overlap. The
    MoQ doesn't allow a third subset of "Quality" that doesn't overlap with
    either "sq" or "DQ", however. What you wrote 28 August seems a SOM in
    disguise: you first distinguish "Quality" in subjective and objective
    Quality (the subjective Quality being "we" or "I") and only then do you
    distinguish objective Quality in "sq" and "DQ": two types of what you call
    'our values'. A 'value' to which you can add 'our'/'my' or 'their' is not
    the type of value/Quality that figures in the MoQ.

    With friendly greetings,

    Wim

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