From: Charles Roghair (ctr@pacificpartssales.com)
Date: Fri Oct 08 2004 - 02:09:49 BST
On Oct 7, 2004, at 5:16 PM, Horse wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what was the atom bomb? As I recall, scientists created it. Not
>>>> to
>>>> mention intercontinental missiles and chemical/biological weapons.
>>
>>> So you're saying that scientists design and build WMD either to
>>> silence
>>> those who have competing scientific views or who threaten the
>>> scientific
>>> world view?
>>
>> No. I'm saying scientists are no less prone to killing their fellow
>> human
>> beings than any other group,
>
> Really? I haven't noticed any recent occurrences of fundamentalist
> biologists flying
> aircraft into large buildings. Nor have we witnessed suicide bomber
> chemistry
> professors wreaking havoc in the name of Darwin or Newton.
>
>> and will rightfully join others who kill to
>> preserve their freedom to pursue their scientific world view.
>
> Again, I'n not aware of any examples of wars fought to force the
> theory of evolution on
> other societies.
>
Chuck muses:
Also, while scientists may be the ones to develop the technology,
they're rarely the ones with their fingers on the buttons. Those are
the ones with the divine mandates and confidence that God is their
copilot or there waits virgins and streets paved with gold in heaven
for smoking infidels, which must be how they sleep at night.
Dawkins represents the extreme backlash to the irrational faith
God-squad, which is why many find him so distasteful, which is why I
think he's a prophet probably.
From LILA pg. 133
"Dynamic Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting edge of reality, the
source of all things, completely simple and always new. It was the
moral force that had motivated the brujo in Zuni. It contains no
pattern of fixed rewards and punishments. It's only perceived good is
freedom and it's only perceived evil is static quality itself–any
pattern of one-sided fixed values that tries to kill the ongoing free
force of life.
Static quality, the moral force of the priests, emerges in the wake of
Dynamic Quality. It is old and complex. It always contains a
component of memory. Good is conformity in an established pattern of
fixed values and value objects. Justice and law are identical. Static
morality is full of heroes and villains, loves and hatreds, carrots and
sticks. Its values don't change by themselves. Unless they are
altered by Dynamic Quality they say the same thing year after year.
Sometimes they say it more loudly, sometimes more softly, but the
message is always the same."
Dynamic Quality motivates Dawkins the way it motivated the brujo.
Horse too.
Don't spook the Horse.
Best regards,
Chuck
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