RE: MD On Faith

From: Chuck Roghair (ctr@pacificpartssales.com)
Date: Mon Oct 11 2004 - 20:24:42 BST

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    Hello:

    I ran across this this morning while reading LILA.

    >From Chapter 17, pg. 254-255:

    "It's ironic that although the philosophy of science leaves no room for any
    undefined Dynamic activity, it's science's unique organization for the
    handling of the Dynamic that gives it its superiority. Science supercedes
    old religious forms, not because what it says is more true in any absolute
    sense (whatever that is), but because what it says is more Dynamic.

    If scientists had simply said Copernicus was right and Ptolemy was wrong
    without any willingness to further investigate the subject, then science
    would have simply become another religious creed. But Scientific truth has
    always contained an overwhelming difference from theological truth: it is
    provisional. Science always contains an eraser, a mechanism whereby new
    Dynamic insight could wipe out old static patterns without destroying
    science itself. Thus science, unlike orthodox theology, has been capable of
    continuous, evolutionary growth. As Phaedrus had written on one of his
    slips, "The pencil is mightier than the pen."

    Seemed pertinent to the conversation.

    Best regards,

    Chuck

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    Subject: RE: MD On Faith

    Hi all,

    You may remember a while back that DMB and I were trying to convince
    someone (Ian, I think) that bad logic can be very dangerous in the
    real world. Take a look at the following line of reasoning:

    "Dawkins supports a belief system which denies the existence of God.
    Communism and humanism are belief systems that also deny the
    existence of God. Godless belief systems have slaughtered millions to
    impose their belief systems on others. ... That's why I objected to
    Dawkins' sanctimonious support of his pagan belief system."

    msh says:
    Now, imagine a world in which people who reason in this way actually
    have political and military power.

    Actually, sadly, it's not hard to imagine...

    Best,
    msh
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