From: Scott Roberts (jse885@earthlink.net)
Date: Thu Oct 14 2004 - 17:26:22 BST
David M,
I agree, though one can also put it in terms of "limitation". By limiting
itself DQ creates SQ, but such limitation does not diminish DQ in the
slightest -- only someone hung up on some particular SQ has a limited
appreciation of DQ, so the individual may be said to have withdrawn.
Merrell-Wolff, by the way, says that his mystical experience taught him
that the more ponderable a thing is, the less Real it is, which is
basically expressing this same idea.
- Scott
> [Original Message]
> From: David Morey <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Date: 10/13/2004 2:59:44 PM
> Subject: Re: MD A bit of reasoning
>
> Hi folks
>
> I still like to bang on about my view that
> SQ is the withdrawal of DQ. Does anyone
> else get this? DQ is full of limitless possibilities.
> If it expresses one possibility and withdraws we
> are left with only repeats. This is SQ. Any other takers
> for my humble idea? It links very nicely with god as the withdrawn
> one in some religious writings.
>
> regards
> DM
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885@earthlink.net>
> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: MD A bit of reasoning
>
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > > [joe] it is hard for me to discard a mystical experience of DQ!
> >
> > No reason to, as far as I can see. Human intellect is different from
> > Intellect, and mystical experience can be seen as a momentary
breakthrough
> > of Intellect.
> >
> > Do the self
> > > and awareness share the same definition? To say a couple of things
about
> > DQ
> > > like 'creativity' and 'drives evolution' acknowledges a mystical
sense.
> > What
> > > are its limits?
> >
> > Since DQ sets limits (which are SQ) it is unlimited.
> >
> > > IMO morality is not merely the logic of awareness. Morality
> > > is the response of awareness to the evolution of levels. How can I
avoid
> > SOM
> > > if I divide self and awareness?
> >
> > Why divide them? To distinguish is not to divide. SOM makes the division
> > real, but in the MOQ (and what I am aiming at), awareness creates the
self
> > and what it is aware of in the act of awareness.
> >
> > IMO awareness is dynamic only in relation to
> > > its own existence. IMO my focus, awareness, is extremely limited. I
want
> > to
> > > experience the fullness of DQ!
> >
> > "You" cannot experience the fullness of DQ, if I understand what mystics
> > are saying. The fullness of DQ creates/experiences many "you's" by
setting
> > limits. (IMO, of course.)
> >
> > - Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
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