Re: MD Solidarity truth

From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Jan 18 2003 - 20:21:30 GMT

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    Matt wrote:
    Your logic book probably says something like this on the
    "begging the question fallacy": "arriving at a conclusion from statements
    that themselves are questionable and have to be proved but are assumed
    true." Now, granted, this definition begs the question in favor of our
    ability to prove (the implication being in some "necessarily/absolutely
    certain" kind of way) statements, which I don't think is really possible.
    When I say you are begging the question, I'm saying that you are accepting
    a premise that I don't accept, therefore your conclusion isn't one I'm
    likely to also reach. I'm saying the consequences you draw aren't
    consequences of my position, they are consequences of either your position
    or some other position you've just created to look like me.

    > DMB says:
    > To beg a question is simply to avoid it. To beg an issue is a failure to
    > address it. Its not any more complicated than that.

    Actually David, it is more complicated than that. To 'beg the question' is
    to employ a premise in an argument which assumes the truth of the argument's
    conclusion. For some examples, see a web page like
    http://skepdic.com/begging.html

    rick

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