Re: MD On Faith

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Tue Oct 19 2004 - 17:59:50 BST

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    Let us not forget that Galileo challenged the truth of the Bible
    not religion. Galileo was very religious but suggested that
    we read god's book of nature as containing more truth than
    a book that men claimed to have been inspired by god.
    Nature, for sure, thought Galileo was god's work.
    How we read nature -there's a tricky challenge.

    David M
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885@earthlink.net>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:06 PM
    Subject: Re: MD On Faith

    > Jim,
    >> >>[somebodyorother-nooffencemeant:[DMB:]] In any case, I think the clash
    > between science and
    >> >>religion is resolved in the MOQ, even if its not easy to see at first.
    >
    >> >[Scott:] It has been resolved for over a hundred years in liberal
    > Protestant
    >> >theology. The Catholics took longer, but they have no problem either,
    > since
    >> >Vatican II.
    >
    >
    >> jl in polite astonishment:
    >> Really????????
    >
    > So now I have to guess what conflict you had in mind. If it is stem-cell
    > research (since that's in the news lately), that is a conflict over
    > whether
    > it is moral for scientists to do such research. There will always be
    > questions over the morality of what scientists work on, cases of obvious
    > immorality (e.g., Mengele), and debatable ones (should scientists have
    > worked on the A-bomb, vivisection). But these are not conflicts where
    > science says X is true, but dogma says Y is true, as in the classic cases
    > of Galileo and evolution. It is this sort of thing that I assume Pirsig
    > was
    > referring to ("Science supercedes old religious forms, not because what it
    > says is more true in any absolute sense (whatever that is), but because
    > what it says is more Dynamic." (LILA Chapter 17).
    >
    > If it was something else, let me know.
    >
    > - Scott
    >
    >
    >
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