From: jainy maewood (polkadotsf@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Oct 21 2004 - 07:10:01 BST
Mark:
Yes, thanks. Sorry I didn't think of this myself. *newbie* :)
j
>From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: MD ZMM: Required Reading?
>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:48:17 -0700
>
>Hi Mel and Jainy,
>
>I've started a new thread for you. This just makes it easier for me
>to sort, search and tabulate responses to the Poetic Quality
>discussion.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
>
>
>
>On 20 Oct 2004 at 20:48, jainy maewood wrote:
>
>Hi Mel (pleased to meet you):
>
>Yes, I agree. Sorry....I didn't mean literally, I was using the word
>"required" to emphasize my own enthusiasm for the book. Lets say it
>could go on the "recommended reading list" - that's a voluntary
>proposition. Although I think many of the ideas from ZMM could be
>snuck into the teaching environment vis a vis exercises, designed to
>raise questions in this direction. For instance, I sometimes teach
>painting to beginning students. And it's clear from observing them,
>that unless they stop "thinking about" what they are looking at, and
>start really observing it, they will not perceive well enough to
>create a likeness. Something in this direction...bringing up
>questions about how to study, how to perceive the problem we are in
>front of - how to paint the figure or whatever, as a problem of
>quality of thought and perception. But it's a hard nut to crack
>anyway
>you look at it!
>
>Jainy
>
> >From: "ml" <mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com>
> >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> >To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> >Subject: Re: MD Poetic Quality
> >Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:35:17 -0600
> >
> >Hello Jainy:
> >
> >Jainy
> > > ...BTW, I think ZMM should be required
> > > reading for all art students.
> >
> >mel:
> >I must take exception to this...
> >
> >While students SHOULD read it, to make
> >it required...no.
> >
> >As much as I respect teachers, I've had a
> >number of really bad ones who taught
> >"required" books. They were unenthusiastic
> >Such a fate would work to destroy any
> >possibility for Quality.
> >
> >Let the readers come to the book as willing
> >readers...
> >
> >I wish it were otherwise.
> >
> >thanks--mel
> >
> >
> >
> >
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