RE: MD Solidarity truth

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Jan 19 2003 - 20:20:06 GMT

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    DMB had said:
    To beg a question is simply to avoid it. To beg an issue is a failure to
    address it. Its not any more complicated than that.

    Matt replied:
    Actually, I think its more specific than simply avoiding the question. It
    means you are trying to answer a question in a way that's circular in
    reasoning because a conclusion you reach is a specific and logical
    consequence of a premise that another party doesn't accept. At least,
    that's the way I will always be using the phrase because there are all
    sorts of other ways to avoid an issue and question. For instance, never
    responding to it. That's not necessarily begging the question.

    DMB says:
    I was willing to just let it go, but since you brought it up again I'd like
    to explain. Its not about whether or not you accept the premise of another.
    I mean, if you challenge a premise and I discuss with you all the reasons
    why we ought to accept it, then I have not begged the question, in spite of
    the fact that you might still don't accept. That's merely disagreement and
    using the word "beg" in this way defies the english language. I find this to
    be totally unacceptable, not to mention terribly confusing. Here, for
    example, the issue is the meaning of the word "beg". By shifting the issue
    to "the way I will be using the phrase", you have begged the question. The
    question is what it means for everybody and anybody, not just you. And think
    of the confusion that would result if we each had our own private
    definitions. This comes fvery close to the MOQ's definition of insanity, a
    culture of one. If we can't rely on the english language as a common medium
    of exchange here, then all is lost in a soup of incomprehensable solipsism.

    Thanks,
    DMB

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