From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Mon Oct 25 2004 - 03:07:25 BST
Scott Roberts said:
Modern, thinking Christians are much closer to our side in the battle
between the social and intellectual levels than on theirs. ...The dispute is
between those Christians who agree with you and those who do not. The former
are saying just what you are saying, that these sorts of beliefs are a
residue of a mythological past, and should be jettisoned, or in some cases
only treated symbolically. ...I wouldn't try to discuss philosophy with a
fundamentalist Christian. But it is possible with, say, theologians like
Lonergan, Rahner, Tillich, Tracy, Cupitt, and so forth. They know all about
the demands of evidence and logical consistency.
dmb says:
I'll ask you the same thing I ask everyone, can't you bring me some actual
quotes from these guys? Can you actually make a case that faith and theism
is consistent with philosophical mysticism and the demands of empirical
evidence? You'll forgive me if I'm skeptical, ok? I think you have to be
using all those key words (faith, theism and mysticism) in ways that are
used inside the church and make no sense to those of us who speak english.
Make a case. Tell me what's good about it. If the evolution of humanity were
like a freeway, religion is the guy driving slow in the fast lane, clogging
everything up for everybody else. I mean, even if there are more thinkers
than I thought, aren't we really talking about a pathetic salvage project
rather than anything genuinely needed? Go ahead, I'm listening.
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