From: Scott Roberts (jse885@earthlink.net)
Date: Wed Oct 27 2004 - 01:18:58 BST
Mark,
> Scott Roberts, I believe, sees both Quality and God as ways of
> referring to aspects of a "disembodied consciousness" he sees as the
> ground of being.
Actually, I didn't mention God.
> Here he casts his vote for consciousness as the
> ultimate reality because in doing so the problem of consciousness
> arising from matter, he believes, disappears.
That's not my only reason, nor my main one. My main one is that the
existence of consciousness is impossible to reconcile with a belief that
spacetime is a fundamental structure. For consciousness to be aware of
spatiotemporal events, it must transcend their spatiotemporality. Only
something outside of time could perceive motion.
On the other hand, I
> choose to let the problem be a problem, for now, and go with the
> rational empiricism of the MOQ, believing that a large amount of
> empirical evidence suggests the possibility that consciousness may
> very well be a manifestation of matter.
While I claim that all that we call "matter", at least insofar as it can
be measured in spatiotemporal terms, is produced by consciousness, that the
idea that it exists independently of consciousness *as* spatiotemporal
matter does not stand up to inquiry. All that we perceive with our senses
(color, shape, motion, sound, touch, etc.) does not exist except through
the act of perceiving, so it is fallacious to use these products of
perception (which we call the material world) to explain perception.
- Scott
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