From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Fri Oct 29 2004 - 15:03:13 BST
On 29 Oct 2004 at 8:06, Platt Holden wrote:
> msh says:
> Why do people sometimes disagree about the
> objects in which Quality resides?
Quality resides in objects? Or in the "eye of the beholder?" I think
Pirsig addresses this perennial question, but I can't find where.
Anyone know where he gives a definitive answer? Perhaps Quality
"resides" in both subject and object? If so, what's the relationship?
msh says:
In ZMM, where he's faced with the dilemma of deciding whether Quality
is in the object or in the observer, he goes right between the
horns, saying that it is a separate but ontologically EQUAL entity.
That's where he leaves Reality, briefly, as a trinity, wandering the
halls whispering to himself, "Holy, holy, holy..." I don't have the
book in front of me, this is in Part III, where the narrator is
remembering Phaedrus' teaching days at Bozeman. Chapters 19 or 20,
maybe?
He then goes on to say that Quality, in fact, is the ultimate ONE,
and that subjects and objects are created by it. This is the Quality
that becomes the fundamental reality of the MOQ he attempts to define
in LILA.
I'm not as familiar with the secondary texts, so others might point
us to places in McWatt, or Lila's Child, or SODV where this is
further discussed.
Best,
msh
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