RE: MD On Faith

From: Erin (macavity11@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Nov 09 2004 - 00:45:13 GMT

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    Scott Roberts <jse885@earthlink.net> wrote:
    DMB et al,

    [Campbell:] > "Jesus dies, is resurrected, and goes to heaven. This
    metaphor expresses
    > something religiously mysterious. Jesus could not literally have gone to
    > Heaven becasue there is no geographical place to go. Elijah went up into
    the
    > heavens in a chariot, we are told, but we are not to take this staemtn as
    > description of a literal journey. These are spiritual events described in
    > metaphor. There seem to be only two kinds of people: Those who think that
    > metaphors are facts, and those who know that they are not facts. Those who
    > know they are not facts are what we call 'atheists', and those who think
    > they are facts are 'religious'. Which group really gets the message?"

    SCOTT: But there are also a few who understand that the metaphor/fact distinction,taken in this absolutist way, is a product of SOM. To the pre-modern
    intellect, all reality was as much metaphorical as factual. Here's Owen
    Barfield (Saving the Appearances, pp 74-5]

    ERIN: the think/know distinction is interesting....reminded me about the false certainty that was argued against in the article, fact seems to suggest certainty but so does 'know' no?

    "think it is a fact"

    "know it is not a fact"

     

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