Re: MD On Transcendence

From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Tue Nov 09 2004 - 06:00:52 GMT

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    Ham to Chuck, David and Mel
    Hello again, gentlemen.

    In answer to David's question --
    > Is there any use for the concept of transcendence
    > in the MOQ? If not is this an error in the MOQ?
    > If not an error why not?

    Chuck replied:
    > Initially, I say the MoQ leans toward the
    > intrisically esoteric, rather than the transcendent, but I wonder if there
    > isn't a specific exchange, thread or passage which may have birthed such
    > woolgathering.
    >
    > This may keep up me at night.

    To which Mel provided the following (MOQ approvable) definition for
    "transcendence":
    > Thinking in terms of systems,
    > any system has a meta-system
    > and moving beyond the system
    > into the meta is to transcend...
    >
    > Thinking in terms of MoQ and
    > the levels...each levels rules
    > transcend the prior levels rules.
    >
    > So, it is inherently part of MoQ
    > or so it seems.

    The key phrase here is "so it seems." MOQ does not provide us with a
    transcendent reality, it only pretends to.
    Since I don't want to be responsible for keeping Chuck up at night, I'll
    admit that I may have used the word in an earlier posting. It also appeared
    in the Amazon intervewer's question to Sam Harris: "

    >

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    > Subject: Re: MD On Transcendence
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    > Hi all
    >
    > Is there any use for the concept of transcendence
    > in the MOQ? If not is this an error in the MOQ?
    > If not an error why not?
    >
    > David M
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