From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Tue Nov 09 2004 - 12:06:40 GMT
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From: "Sam Norton" <elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: MD Galileo
> Hi Joe,
>
> Catching up on a post I neglected to reply to earlier on.
>
> > [joe] and I declared to Sam that his use of logic to defend the Church in
> > its rebuke of Galileo's mystical experience of gravity was wrong. Logic
> > cannot defend Faith, they don't speak a common language. They are too far
> > apart. If someone's Faith is misplaced, only mystical experience can speak
> > to the error, like Galileo's experience of gravity. The growth of science in
> > its mystical look at gravity, the DQ of the inorganic level has shown many
> > dogma's to be out of this world. Unfortunately what constitute inorganic,
> > organic, social, intellectual patterns in a moral level is left to: When you
> > see it you'll know it. I feel there could be some effort to acknowledge the
> > mystical DQ of each level as it evolves from the DQ of the inorganic level.
> > Giving a Faith pattern to mystical experience is proper since it can be
> > challenged by a further discipline/ experience of mystical Quality.
>
> I'm interested in this. Part of what I am responding to is the sense that highQuality
argumentation
> is not enough to persuade someone to change their mind, that there needs to be some sort of
dynamic
> break through to 'facilitate' the change of mind. So, as with Kuhn, the revolution is driven by
> non-rational factors (because the rationality is always applied after the event).
>
> Is that what you were getting at?
>
> Sam
>
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