From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Wed Nov 10 2004 - 03:27:39 GMT
Platt,
> If you had read the newspaper article beyond the slanted headline and
> first paragraph (an example of how the liberal media distorts the news)
> you would have noticed that the alternate theories included "intelligent
> design" which has been supported by some biologists.
>
"Intelligent Design" is the newspeak label conservatives are using to push
creationism (first "creationism", then "creation science", now "intelligent
design"). This is one example of how the conservatives distort the news by
manipulating language. As it stands, I have no qualms with "intelligent
design"... in a comparative mythology course, where it belongs. You may think
this is dismissive, but I believe mythology to be very important.
> I don't think "creationism' has any place in a biology class. But I do
> think "intelligent design" and the MOQ theory of the beginning of life
> might be appropriate.
Again, if you mean is a mythology or even philosophy course, I may agree with
you.
As for "conservative propaganda" perhaps you'll
> explain to the kiddies why Uncle Joe Stalin killed 13 million Russian
> citizens.
>
When you explain to them why Uncle Sam killed 10 million native American
Indians. Or why Uncle Sam enslaved, tortured and considered "blacks" (and
Indians) as sub-humans in their "All Men Are Created Equal" nation?
You see, I can fully admit the evil carried out by Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot and
other evil men seeking to dominate people by falsely applying an ideology. You
can't do the same?
Of course, I could always dismiss the genocide of Stalin by claiming it was
"conservative propaganda with the agenda of discrediting Marxism". Maybe those
13 million people just killed each other in local disputes. Uncle Joe simply
inherited the land bereft of these murderous savages.
> > Not that I could speak for Mr. Pirsig, but I'd bet my wealth on the
> > knowledge that he'd alter his theory if he became aware of valid,
> > contradictory evidence. His support of the MOQ shows evidence that he was
> > not interested in creating a dogma, but an evolving understanding.
>
> I agree. But, I'm unaware such contradictory evidence to his theory has
> appeared.
>
Nor am I. One of the strengths of his explanatory framework, and why I believe
it will overcome static social patterns of thought.
> > > and that defining an entire group
> > > of fellow citizens with a different view than your own as lunatics,
> > > idiots and purveyors of insanity is a gross form of bigotry.
> >
> > Thank you. I'll accept your apology for your portrayl of "liberals" as
> > such. It takes a big man to admit his bigotry, thanks Platt.
>
> If you can point to where I blasphemed liberals with those words I'll
> gladly apologize.
>
Aahhhh... you are a politician on the side? Your use of "liberal" as a
pejorative speaks for itself.
> Am I right to assume you've applied for emigration to Canada? Or is France
> more to your liking?
Canada is gorgeous. I've been to Ottowa and Montreal many times. I could easily
move there. France, well, I'd have to learn French, so I'd prefer a
Scandinavian area, or Germany (getting too old to learn yet another language).
When Tony Blair is tossed out, I'd consider England.
New Zealand, however, tops my list. I have been seeking to study at Massey
University for some time, although I have familial ties to Pennsylvania and so
will likely remain for at least a few more years.
But don't think I do not like America, Platt, I have much hope given that 49% of
the country, half of the population (of voters) not only voted democratic, but
voted for the ***most liberal member of congress***. All we need is 1% to see
through the veil of right-wing propaganda, and we'll not only have a "liberal"
president, but a very liberal president! Something worth staying for!!!
Arlo
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